Post by withinsilence on Dec 27, 2011 16:33:49 GMT
Yes people are objects, but this law does not apply to anything but force (movement) on the object. If you say someting negative to me which is an action (speaking) and I don't respond this law is not in effect and does not pertain to this type of action.
"Warrior am I and from the battle I emerge Triumphant"
Post by withinsilence on Dec 27, 2011 17:35:48 GMT
but is it an equal and opposite response?
I think the law of cause and effect work not only on outside objects (physical) but within the individual as karma. What you think and attach your feelings to or identify with effects your being and the consciousness of humanity as a whole. As an example: people who worry or stress themselves out make them self sick physically. People who cause harm to others suffer within them self (physically and emotionally) even if they are not conscious of the effects of their own harmful causes.
This is how most of the world lives until their suffering is so great that they awaken to the fact that they are their only cause of their own suffering and this is called realization or awareness, enlightenment etc. Once this sets in the being will take full responsibility of not only its outside words and actions which are no more than the results of thoughts, but the very thoughts them self as if it attaches itself to negative/positive thoughts it continues in the karmic cycle of re-birth and death.
Nothing outside of you can effect you emotionally without you attaching your identity to the thoughts within yourself that the others outside actions have caused and submitting your volition to them and reacting or acting out what those thoughts are telling you to do.
The unconscious man will act upon those thoughts and the conscious man will "see" those thoughts as only thoughts and nothing more thus not reacting to them but instead practices mindful awareness and in-so doing he attains equanimity, balance and remains centered in mindfulness.
Simply there is no power over another without submission of ones volition to its thoughts or the thoughts of anyone else. When one holds total control over its volition, it has overcome its karma and must practice mindfulness by having undiscriminating virtue in order to maintain its peaceful equanimity.
Post by withinsilence on Dec 27, 2011 18:06:34 GMT
I don't know every-thing so I can't name the one thing that isn't moving but that which lies between movement and stillness or between this and that. Nonmovement is not moving and is the pause between when the object stops moving in one direction and starts moving toward its opposite, the amount of "time" it takes to stop the objects directional movement and start the other is non-movement or the gap and the object is not moving during this time.
"Warrior am I and from the battle I emerge Triumphant"
Post by withinsilence on Dec 27, 2011 19:11:05 GMT
no it doesn't. prove it! now there is no past and there cant be the future now, thus there is only now. time is a concept of mind. we live in the eternal continuous movement of now. there is nothing else!
Post by withinsilence on Dec 27, 2011 20:54:58 GMT
Matter moving in space which is moving is no time but just continuity. But I get it too and man needs time to "function" in this world for who is not "on the clock" today and time is money but that is a false statement as a thing cannot be anything other than what it is as time can only be a measurement of a thing and money is simply a representation of an agreement with a story behind it which society chooses to believe in.
And money being worthless (valueless)which it is there is nothing stopping the powers that be in canceling all the "fictitious" debt and starting with a clean slate as this is what used to happen every seven years under Jewish law as stated in Deuteronomy 15:1
Going to the gold standard also will not solve anything as when a commodity is used to back a currency then all that happens is they try to produce more of the commodity which alters the price of it which causes the same problem as before. When gold is mined it causes havoc on nature and what sense does it make to dig something up out of the ground, refine it and put it in a vault for storage anyway?
NEW DELHI: Hindus in Russia Wednesday won a hard-fought six-month battle in a Siberian court against a plea to ban the Bhagavad Gita, among their holiest of religious scriptures, with the judge dismissing the state prosecutors' stand the book be branded "extremist" literature, as first reported by IANS.
Post by withinsilence on Dec 28, 2011 14:01:21 GMT
Extremist as compared to what? and that is the problem, most of the world is still in dualistic comparisons instead of total acceptance. What is considered normal or neutral that anything in opposition of this "norm" would be considered extreme? What society chooses to believe and accept as normal?
I would say society is "extremely" insane and my views are normal but I see myself as extreme compared to society.
Post by withinsilence on Dec 28, 2011 14:10:51 GMT
Religions and belief systems are just part of the consciousness choosing to experience itself through this vehicle. It is changing i.e. very slowly but people are starting to inquire into the truth of their "beliefs" which is a step toward truth as beliefs are simply its denial. The whole world is going through a shift in consciousness, from separation to unity, from beliefs to truth, from ignorance to knowing, from fear to love, from conditional acceptance to unconditional acceptance, to one day allowing total and complete undifferentiated, unfiltered reality to be that which it is and working as a collective whole for the betterment of the whole consciousness experience. At least that how I see it.
Humanity has been on the "extreme" side of negativity and separation (the same story based in fear and survival) and that story has run its course and fulfilled its intended purpose to bring about a great shift, a new story based on unity, oneness, simplicity, unconditional love and acceptance and understanding. Those who want to stay in the old story will, those who want to move on to the new will, as we all create consciously are own reality.
Kalapas are defined as the smallest units of physical matter. Kalapas are described as tiny units of materiality, “tens of thousands of times smaller than a particle of dust,” coming into existence and disappearing in as little as a billionth of a second or a trillionth of the blink of an eye. Kalapas are understood by some Therevada thinkers as actual subatomic particles and the smallest units of materiality.
I just recently came across an interesting book ... The Buddha and the Quantum: Hearing the Voice of Every Cell .. by Samuel Avery. I found it to be a fascinating discussion of consciousness and physics.
Here is a conversation between Jerry Katz and the author