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Post by withinsilence on Sept 26, 2013 20:02:45 GMT
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
Anne Lamott
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Post by gurthbruins on Sept 27, 2013 7:16:41 GMT
Sounds clever, but I can't quite follow it. Who could "you" be, because I don't see how it could turn out that God hates anything, even if "you" do. Replace "it turns out" with "you think", then it makes more sense.
In the case that you see the people you hate dropping dead by the million, you might reasonably assume that you are God, I suppose. One could hardly expect to escape the role God has marked out for one...
... just what I think at the moment.
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Post by withinsilence on Sept 27, 2013 10:54:30 GMT
That's what she's saying, that God doesn't hate anything and the God you're addicted to (in her quote) is an idol you've created in the mind, which is called idolatry.
"it turns out" is the same as "you think" because by saying it this way she is trying to get "you TO think" and wake up.
what "it turns out" is, is the belief in the validity of your own conceptual idea of what God is, thinks and likes and dislikes, but she is saying it in such a way as to try and get the reader to look at its self, or within itself to awaken it to its ignorance.
In other words; when one has accepted the false idea/thought that they know what God thinks, and they hear them self saying "it turns out", it should spark that inner light that reveals how stupid one sounds to them self when saying it. Inner self reflection is what she is pointing to.
She knows God doesn't hate anyone, thus the person she's pointing to doesn't know God, but only "thinks" it does because hate is not an attribute of God. This person doesn't "know thyself"
This is how I see it, and why I posted it as I thought it might spark a little awakening because of the way it was written.
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Post by gurthbruins on Sept 27, 2013 13:44:14 GMT
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Post by withinsilence on Sept 27, 2013 15:13:54 GMT
Its amazing how an assumption can cause one to try and explain to that which "pre-seeded" the assumption, that which it already knows, thus proving to the assumer that its lost in its own assumptions.
A Zen Poem- "From the bathtub to the bathtub, I have said many nonsenses"
and so one plays the game of trying to solve a problem when the only problem is believing that there is a problem to try and solve and someone to solve it for.
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Post by gurthbruins on Sept 27, 2013 18:37:58 GMT
Yes, ws, I do like a game-playing approach, as used by Florence ScovelShinn, Deepak Chopra and sometime Alan Watts, and games demand some sort of problem for tackling! So we get into a need for creating problems
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Post by withinsilence on Oct 14, 2013 17:53:16 GMT
"Man has tried the application of more to solve his addiction to the belief of not enough, yet has only reaped the continuation of the addiction regardless of how much he has, thus it is due to his beliefs of a separate self that creates his emptiness which he tries to fulfill with the addiction. If he would but change his belief in separation, he would soon see that he lacks nothing and has never been alone."
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Post by withinsilence on Oct 17, 2013 17:57:05 GMT
“We may divide thinkers into those who think for themselves and those who think through others. The latter are the rule and the former the exception. The first are original thinkers in a double sense, and egotists in the noblest meaning of the word.” -Schopenhauer.
“All that a man is outwardly is but the expression and completion of his inward thought. To work effectively he must think clearly. To act nobly he must think nobly.” -Channing.
"All that we are is a result of what we have thought" - Buddha
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Post by withinsilence on Oct 20, 2013 14:05:14 GMT
"Animals could do a better job preserving the planet. If the Animal Kingdom ruled the world, we'd still have tropical rain forests, clear skies, honeybees and clean water. No polluted rivers, no Bermuda Triangle of floating plastic debris, no planetary drought, no global apocalypse, no food shortages and no war. I am not diatribing. I am merely pointing out that what we think is progress really does have other implications."
JJ Semple "The Backward-Flowing Method"
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Post by withinsilence on Oct 23, 2013 18:36:14 GMT
“It would be useless for you and the speaker to listen to a lot of words, but if we could together take a very long journey, not in terms of time, not in terms of belief or conclusions or theories, but in examining very carefully the way of our lives, fear, uncertainty, insecurity and all the inventions that man has made, including the extraordinary computers. If we take a long journey into this, where are we at the end of two million years? Where are we going, not as some theory, not what some wretched book says, however holy it is, but where are we all going? And where have we begun? They’re both related to each other: where we are going, where we begin. The beginning may be the ending. Don’t agree. Find out.” Total Freedom-J Krishnamurti
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Post by gurthbruins on Oct 24, 2013 1:34:34 GMT
"Extraordinary computers" seem to be the star of this comment, not merely included. Worried about the future, K? Come off it. Where's your God?
Ein feste Burg ist unser Gott - Martin Luther, ex Psalm 46
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Post by withinsilence on Oct 24, 2013 11:13:14 GMT
I wonder if being groomed to be what someone else thinks the world needs can make one resentful? I wonder if K was ever truly free?
What is it that we are to be freed from anyway, the desire to be free? Is this not bondage?
The day all computers come preprogrammed with empathy and compassion, with a zest for life and a longing to be one with nature, when they can teach unconditional acceptance and undiscriminating virtue and empty the mind of all its prejudices, discriminatory beliefs, long held assumptions and unquestioned concepts thus creating the unlimited capacity to see a new way of life, when the computers can transplant these seeds in the mind of its users economically, effectively, efficiently, without error or failure; that will be the day humanity awakens to who its always been.
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Post by withinsilence on Oct 28, 2013 18:08:41 GMT
"It cannot be explained by concepts. How can words explain that from which words originate!"
Nisargadatta
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Post by withinsilence on Nov 25, 2013 20:43:13 GMT
“The secret of happiness is freedom. The secret of freedom is courage.” ~Thucydides
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Post by withinsilence on Mar 18, 2014 12:39:13 GMT
"To recognize our own mistakes is to be aware, to admit them is to take responsibility, to take responsibility reveals courage and with courage we empower ourselves to learn from them. To learn is natural, and to live in present awareness is to live naturally. Thus, failure is an opportunity to raise awareness, which is its whole purpose, which reveals the perfection in imperfection." WS
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