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Post by withinsilence on Jun 2, 2013 17:27:37 GMT
ha ha, so true popee. I do the same thing on certain sites knowing that my efforts are but useless (most of the time) trying to explain things in such a way that you would have to be asleep to miss the point, I spend much time rewriting and rewording, pointing and steering one down the path to understanding them self, to look within and you know what, they prove me right most of the time, most are conditioned in sleepfulness.
Whats funny is many times I find that I am the idiot for trying so hard to do what I cannot do anyway. Some are awake and aware and some aren't, I don't know how or why this happens, all I know is that it does happen exactly when its supposed to.
Like the Tao states: do your work then step back, this is why it lasts forever, because the doer has vanished from the deed. In other words say what you say with no outcome expected and one cannot be dissapointed, Whose to dissapoint?
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Post by popee on Jun 2, 2013 17:35:22 GMT
I like to think we're useful idiots, but that is not true, we're just idiots. ;-)
I am content being one though. lol
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Post by withinsilence on Jun 2, 2013 17:38:44 GMT
yes this dream i am presently in is much more full of life than before I awoken to how asleep I used to be. ha ha
whats funny is until one awakens it cannot understand what the heck we're even talking about, and then once it does it all doesn't matter anyway!!! now that is divine comedy.
Its like trying to tell the person looking for his prescription glasses that they've been on his face the whole time and he won't take 2 seconds to stop believing they aren't and look in the awakening mirror of self reflection to come to understand the truth that they've always been.
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Post by withinsilence on Jun 5, 2013 21:41:50 GMT
"Everything is fundamentally yang and yin, the energy of creation, if you understand this you really don't need to understand anything else." Alan Watts
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Post by withinsilence on Jun 6, 2013 13:00:52 GMT
"It is absolutely absurd to say that we came into this world, we didn't, we came out of it." Alan Watts
Everything grows from the inside out, nothing grows from the outside in. A flower starts as a seed, buried in darkness it germinates and after much toil breaks out of its own shell, it sprouts up out of darkness as it sends the roots out to remain buried in the soil and take in the energies of the earth, and quite naturally it heads towards the light, which during this growth it has the ability and potentiality to enter into and weather many storms, until finally it casts its true essence out in the form and fragrance of its primal root, as infinite intelligence, ALL within Itself.
Perfection out of imperfection, courage out of fear, love out of hate, and also the opposites, imperfection when out of perfection, fear when out of courage, hate when out of love, and all of it being but the play of yin & yang (seeming duality) but ALL IS and has always and ever will be unity, ALL within All, The Law of One.
All these words; perfection, fear, love, hate, courage, all expressions of emotions called feelings (one feels them innately), are states of mind expressed through the myriad of forms which in reality is but ONE Primal Undifferentiated, Formless Nothingness within each and every form, yet not only within it, but is it and also outside it, in simple terms IT IS ALL and Everything, creator (beginning), that created (temporal/form) and destruction (ending) of creation (that which is temporal), yet because "it" was never born "it" (the creative intelligence) cannot die, hence Alpha and Omega is but one and the same expressed within infinite degrees and varieties of expressions ever in flux.
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Post by withinsilence on Jun 17, 2013 20:35:48 GMT
within the understanding of meaninglessness, one finds freedom, within the understanding of purposelessness, one finds freedom, one who believes the purpose of life is to find the meaning, this one may spend all of life in bondage to this belief, all the while expressing life’s true meaning and purpose, which is freedom, which has no one purpose nor only one meaning, for life is limitless in its expressions.
You are both meaning and purpose, you are life itself, not separate from it, able to express your unique creativity through your words and actions, this is was is meant by being made in the image of the source of creation. All life is but the expression of this innate potential. Throw off the chains of bondage, of limitation, throw off your beliefs in scarcity, in lack, as if something is missing form life and let the freedom you truly are be shared with the world to help awaken it to that which is its innate potential, all within this most precious gift called life.
Think not that your expression is futile, for all stones whether great or small cause a ripple in the river of life when cast out into it, yet so do you feel the affects of the stones you cast, thus let those stones be of gratitude, of thankfulness for all your experiences of life, the choice of you expression you choose is your freewill, put it to good use, for from whom does the wind deny a breath, who doesn’t the sun shine its light on? So be a light unto yourself and inso doing you will cast its luminescent glow upon the world. This is how the world can change from the darkness of separation, of hatred, when we light it up with the appreciation of unity through the freedom of diversity, the freedom of self expression, when humanity realizes it has always been One Life.
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Post by withinsilence on Jun 18, 2013 20:52:41 GMT
the incantation of language holds many in its grip, with silence being the antidote.
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Post by withinsilence on Jun 19, 2013 20:37:36 GMT
Trust yourself, trust the innate nature, trust nature. If you can't trust yourself, you can't trust anything. If you can't trust anything, how can you trust the mistrust of yourself?
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Post by withinsilence on Jul 9, 2013 17:08:37 GMT
Without chaos there is no order, order is within chaos and chaos within order.
He sits at the right hand of God, and, His opposing twin at the left hand, with God at the center, what is there to understand, what is there to know?
Relax, live from center, accept chaos with an open heart. Is not the acceptance of chaos to bring order to your life? Is not the repression of acceptance to bring chaos?
Let the twins play their games, movement of one generates movement from the other, yet, its the Father which allows the play of its children.
The unending dance continues eternally, That Which Is in constant flux, cannot have a known end.
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Post by withinsilence on Jul 19, 2013 14:13:10 GMT
Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth — more than ruin, more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible; thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habits; thought is anarchic and lawless, indifferent to authority, careless of the well-tried wisdom of the ages. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid. It sees man, a feeble speck, surrounded by unfathomable depths of silence; yet it bears itself proudly, as unmoved as if it were lord of the universe. Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.
It is preoccupation with possession, more than anything else, that prevents men from living freely and nobly.
That I, a funny little gesticulating animal on two legs, should stand beneath the stars and declaim in a passion about my rights — it seems so laughable, so out of all proportion. Much better, like Archimedes, to be killed because of absorption in eternal things... There is a possibility in human minds of something mysterious as the night-wind, deep as the sea, calm as the stars, and strong as Death, a mystic contemplation, the "intellectual love of God." Those who have known it cannot believe in wars any longer, or in any kind of hot struggle. If I could give to others what has come to me in this way, I could make them too feel the futility of fighting. But I do not know how to communicate it: when I speak, they stare, applaud, or smile, but do not understand.
All the above from Bertrand Russell
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Post by gurthbruins on Jul 20, 2013 7:15:26 GMT
Bertrand Russell - one of my favourite Taureans - (as is Krishnamurti) - Taurus, the sign of the third eye.
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Post by withinsilence on Jul 20, 2013 14:17:07 GMT
speaking of astrology, is vedic/Hindu astrology much different than any other? Would it reveal the same findings as non-vedic astrology?
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Post by withinsilence on Aug 7, 2013 22:32:03 GMT
Get comfortable not knowing, When you don't know, then there is nothing to teach, When there is nothing to teach, one learns on its own, When one learns on its own, then it comes to know, When it knows it doesn't know, then it accepts life as it is, When one accepts life as it is, this is true trust, When one lives in trust, then one is free from desire.
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Post by withinsilence on Sept 25, 2013 15:02:59 GMT
Ego is a social institution with no physical reality. The ego is simply your symbol of yourself. Just as the word "water" is a noise that symbolizes a certain liquid without being it, so too the idea of ego symbolizes the role you play, who you are, but it is not the same as your living organism. Alan Watts
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Post by withinsilence on Sept 26, 2013 13:22:53 GMT
Can the thinker be moved by its own thoughts? Does your voice bother you?
Then how can what you're thinking about?
The deeper one is immersed in the belief of the actuality of a thought (its contents presently physically happening), the greater its affect over ones feelings, thus your feelings are the result of thought not the cause of thinking. You are the thinker. I'll say it again, how you feel now is based upon what your choosing to think about now and see as reality. When one sees thoughts as thoughts and not reality, (which they are not) then one is not moved by their content which in reality is not physically happening. This is why being attentive now in the continual present moment (momentum=current of life or flow or stream of consciousness), or what is directly in front of and immediately around you presently, is the path that leads one out of suffering from attachment to its thoughts.
It seems that one is a prisoner of its thoughts, but who is giving them its attention and doing the believing that they're reality? What is real and permanent; thoughts or you "the thinker/presence/consciousness before thoughts" or that WHich Is Always Prior to Thinking?
Living here now, with a little space between "you" and "your thoughts" one sees that it used to be attached to (caught up in) its thoughts as if they were reality, when in reality they are just thoughts. Its not that your past didn't happen exactly as you remember it in your thoughts, but that its not happening and is only a thought/image of what already happened that "you" are viewing as a reoccurring movie on the screen of the mind. Ask oneself; how real/exciting/new/ is a movie you've already watched several times? Is any movie actual reality, physically happening now, or is it a recording of that which already happened? So how can a movie move you unless you believe in its reality as actually happening now? This previous real experience you had cannot be altered or changed in anyway and is but a thought in the mind, no longer being actual physical reality.
If the world understood the arbitrary nature of its thoughts, that they are only thoughts, then who would think to hurt who based upon what?
Every thought has its opposite, if one can think to hurt someone, they can also think not to. Why can't you think differently, because you can't or because you won't? If you look inside, you'll see its the latter which is really indolence.
To see how valid all your long held beliefs/thoughts are, get a bowl and set it in front of you. Now take all those important beliefs/thoughts and put them in the bowl so you can sort through them. Well.........where are they? Welcome to NOW, this is reality. Look, listen, see the world as it is without thoughts describing it as this or that. Abide in this moment and take notice of when you leave it and enter your thoughts, this is to bring awareness or presence to its true position, to become the master of the mind and to no longer be a victim of thoughts.
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