An animal, such as a cat or a chameleon, learns a lot in life: who can be trusted, for instance. This knowledge is stored in the mind of the animal. Call it the memory of past events.
All animals, including man, need to amass memories in order to survive. These memories are a record of the PAST, which is more real to us than a "present" which is purely conceptual and never perceived.
We are our past. We live in the "present" with the purpose of building up a rich Past for the benefit of our Future, which we understand as do all animals.
Cats act out of concern for the future. They need to be able to predict the future, which they do with considerable skill. They can so predict because of memories, whether conscious or unconscious.
All this is obvious, but at least it's understandable without resorting to sophisticated mental juggling with words.
Post by withinsilence on Aug 29, 2012 11:04:57 GMT
This makes sense, yet it seems that most of the human population is stuck in the past, with their attention focused on those thought patterns, beliefs, conditioned thoughts and preconceived ideas running their life. In fact this is the truth, just listen to people talk, most talk as though they are living the very thoughts that are playing in their mind. You can hear it in the words they use, see it in their facial expressions, gestures, etc. If you ask them why they believe what they believe they say, "that's how I was raised" or "that is what the book says right here and its the ONLY way", yet do to fear/beliefs/ignorance they don't inquire into it.
This condition is due to thousands of years of repression due to fear of inquiry or questioning of authority as if you were not psychologically within the established parameters set forth by the control institutions you were put in prison or tortured, or even put to death. That is why many "in the know" went to oral transmission of supposed esoteric teachings with "truth" shrouded in symbols, stories, imagery, secrecy as to continue to spread new & ever expanding consciousness but avoid the repercussions of those who didn't/don't want man to know that he is his own master.
But times are changing, and more and more people are starting to question and awakening at alarming rates which is awesome as a new energy is beginning to sweep across the world.
As you said Gurth, keep it simple and it is, where ever one places or focuses their energy, where ever you cast your attention is where your life is lived. Attention is applied energy, thus if you feed your thoughts (past memories) your energy, they grow remain alive (in your mind only) and you feel the effects of this as though it was real.
If you take your energy out of your thoughts, thus just watching them come and go, you see they are nothing but harmless thoughts, nothing more, nothing less. There ARE subconscious thoughts that happen of their own accord such as memories/beliefs/ and there IS thinking, imagination/ ideas/ creativity. The ability to think is always, you are the ability to think or not to think, the power behind the ability, the one casting energy which moves the mind from center to past or future thinking. The more you practice watching this all take place, the more you will begin to master your mind instead of it mastering you.
To live in your past thoughts is to remain uncreative, unexpansive, to limit your potential for growth, new experiences and a life of freedom from the control of the mind.
Time is what it is, the past is dead or not happening now, you carry it with you in the form of thoughts/memories within the mind. It helps to shape life, but is not living as presence, awareness with your attention completely focused through your eyes and ears in complete awareness of your immediate surroundings. This is where reality is experienced, how can it not be? You are nowhere else but exactly where your presently at.
If you let go of thought and allow yourself to be, you will see that truth or answers arise within you, seemingly out of nowhere, but its all already within you. Not worldly information which keeps you in form, a robot/slave to it, but that which transcends it, an inner knowing that is unexplainable with words. Also, your mind will be so empty that you innate intuition, creativity, wisdom and commonsense takes over and you function from center and are not moved by outside circumstances of life.
All this can be for anyone who has not experienced it is a belief, you either believe it or believe it not, either way its a belief until you take up the moment to moment task of inquiry, of witnessing, of seeking Truth. If you don't want to great, you don't have to. If you want to great, you are free to do it. As always, the choice is yours and no one Else's to make for you. Believe nothing I have written here, go find out or not.
You have the choice every single moment to change, the only thing holding you back is you hanging on to your thoughts that you can't.
In other words, he is preparing to live, so that at a distant date he may be in a condition to live. He has not effected a compromise between the present and the future. His own complaint--"What pleasure do I get out of life?"--proves that he is completely sacrificing the present to the future. And how elusive is the future! Like the horizon, it always recedes. If, when he was thirty, some one had foretold that at forty-five, with a sympathetic wife and family and an increasing income, he would be as far off happiness as ever, he would have smiled at the prophecy.
I believe I think, or I think I believe, (same thing) with all my innate selfish and completely immature ignorant mind, that I do indeed have extra ordinary assumptive powers bestowed upon me from the same (currently still resting since the seventh day) creative source that also gave them to everyone else along with the amazing and delusional ability to believe in your beliefs so as to not get deceived by anybody else but yourself! haha
I wonder if anyone who reads these short one sentence sayings, like the one above, that point towards something really get it's meaning?
I wonder if anyone understands that when you respond to what was written: "Let go of reason, and your prison disappears." With:
"prison" is not exactly the correct metaphor you a free to leave anytime you likemost people simply don't want to
that what you wrote can be perceived as either negative, i.e. I did not use the exact correct metaphor and therefor I am wrong and you are right -OR- it may be perceived as positive i.e. as a further simplification of the original sayings hidden meaning, so as to not say I was wrong but to help simplify the meaning of the word prison and disappears by telling them that they are in fact free because in truth there is no prison you just "think" or "believe" there is.
then we have your response to my response and lastly mine to yours which all of it may be perceived as either a joke, taken personally-as if one was offended, as pure ignorance or maybe, just maybe there is all of those thoughts, ideas, feelings and perceptions hidden within it, all of those revealing so subtle the truth within the original statement, that when you try to reason and come to an absolute truth about anything, you get caught in the web of thoughts, and waste much time thinking and thinking thus remaining in the seeming prison of the minds thoughts when the whole time you are free to stop and simply just be here now, in the present without any inner dialog going on inside your head.
but to be aware of all this one would have to be a true seeker of truth, spend a little effort applying attention to look past the surface of the words and get into the gap of silence between them which speaks the truth innately so one begins to see just how little it truly knows about anything!
I'm losing interest in talking. That's why I use twenty words, instead of a hundred. Don't fill-in-the-blanks for the missing eighty, its impossible to be accurate, and you just might cause yourself a bunch of unnecessary heartburn.
no distress was caused at all, everything I wrote was to help those who are seeking, it was not intended for you or me even though it was written including you. The whole point was to say exactly what your saying here, that it's almost impossible to interpret or to fathom EXACTLY what someone is trying to convey, what someone has written especially when reading it. When you verbally communicate the persons gestures, tone of voice, inflection all come into play to help the listener understand what the speaker is saying.
And we wonder why we kill each other over 2,000+- year old books all do to misinterpretations!. What I wrote popee was a mockery of all of it, a joke with a message within it. I cannot take anything personally because there is "no one" (me, mine, my=ego) to get offended, and I know you know exactly what I mean by this. so don't ever believe that I can be offended, there is no "I' that can. consciousness may write as though it is "offended" to help reveal what the ego is, or to teach something or to try and raise attention or inquiry within the reader but that is all it is and nothing more. sorry if I was misleading.
I know what you mean about losing interest in talking and I am glad you said it because sometimes I feel as if I am the only one on this planet that sees the insanity, falsity, and rampant useless chattering about absolutely nothing. I understand why the ancient masters didn't say anything unless asked a specific question and then when they answered they knew that it was going to amount to talking to a wall and go right over the heads of the majority of the listeners. I can't say they knew it, or that it does not help anyone, but for every one in a hundred that gets it, 99 miss. So eventually you just stop trying to force water down unthirsty throats and wait for those 1-2 true totally surrendered in depth seekers which will actually listen and trust in what they hear from you.
I have watched many videos of Krishnamurti/Osho and the like and you can tell they get frustrated over saying the same thing in 9 million different ways and no one gets any of it. Even Nisargadatta would do it in his talks. He would tell the people that were with him for years and years, still asking questions, "why can't you here what I am telling you, if you would simply let go and listen, if you understood what I am saying you would not keep asking! haha