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Post by gurthbruins on Jan 8, 2013 6:39:49 GMT
WS wrote (reply #35 above or below):
" All of life's circumstances are neutral, how you choose to feel as you experience them is solely up to you.
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- Life is not what you make it, life is how you take it.
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Post by popee on Jan 8, 2013 17:41:53 GMT
WS wrote (reply #35 above or below): " All of life's circumstances are neutral, how you choose to feel as you experience them is solely up to you. " - Life is not what you make it, life is how you take it. yes, obviously is there a universal law of cause and effect?
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Post by withinsilence on Jan 8, 2013 18:15:27 GMT
only when there is a doer and time, there is no doer and thus no time hence no causation and no time for an effect. cause and effect exist in a dualistic/divided mind, in duality not in reality.when there is no doer as a subject doing a thing to an object there can be no cause and effect.
you cannot reason this with your intellectual divided self, but only when "you" do not exist as a separate self. The problem many seekers have is when they begin tosee the world as an illusion, they forget to include themself in it!
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Post by popee on Jan 8, 2013 18:24:42 GMT
The problem many seekers have is when they begin tosee the world as an illusion, they forget to include themself in it! well, if I did that ... what would happen to me? LMAO (caps)
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Post by withinsilence on Jan 8, 2013 18:38:45 GMT
he he he....exactly, this would give "you" the illusion of liberation yet "it" has always been free "you" simply "believed" "I" was held captive by "me". ha ha ha he he he!!!!!! whoever created this game must BE all knowing and omnipresent to participate in such a divine illusion of perfection. he he he, I wish I was that wise and could play in it, but I have to go to work now! LMAO
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Post by popee on Jan 8, 2013 19:09:21 GMT
"go to work" ... what's up with that? working as a slave for 'da man', taking his script paper in exchange for your labor .. trading that paper for a trinket made by some Chinese slave counterpart ... its a racket man, I'm telling ya ... LOL
then in our spare time we contemplate returning to Reality ..
"God" did not think this whole arrangement through properly. lmao
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Post by withinsilence on Jan 8, 2013 19:27:05 GMT
LOL awesome, actually I take back some of post 49 where I said "the illusion of liberation" as once this KNOWLEDGE/GNOSIS is intuitively perceived or apperceived as Nisargadatta rightly puts it and all doubt/fear is cast out by Truth, one truly is liberated in a sense and basically has not any limitations (maybe not physically speaking) but psychologically speaking, not that one did before but it "thought" it did.
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Post by gurthbruins on Jan 9, 2013 6:29:10 GMT
"Oh for the wings of a dove" ... I don't think the doves are much interested in our conversation, or maybe they are saying LMAO from the point of their liberation looking down on us.
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Post by withinsilence on Jan 9, 2013 11:56:11 GMT
if one had the wings of a dove it could fly away somewhere far away.
Gurth, I cannot fathom what you are pointing at with your post #52?
I take it as a teaching pointing towards humility and humbleness for those who are LMAO. Is this close to your intent or am I reading into it too much?
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Post by gurthbruins on Jan 9, 2013 13:01:39 GMT
if one had the wings of a dove it could fly away somewhere far away. Gurth, I cannot fathom what you are pointing at with your post #52? I take it as a teaching pointing towards humility and humbleness for those who are LMAO. Is this close to your intent or am I reading into it too much? WS, I am just expressing my feeling that the doves are perfectly liberated and enlightened, and don't "need" to do anything to get there - not that I am sure we do either. Same for hawks too - and most animals that I can think of, if not all. Maybe these animals are good examples for us? Small children too, I suppose, as Jesus suggested.
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Post by withinsilence on Jan 9, 2013 13:31:16 GMT
OK, it was the reference to LMAO that I assumed.......and therein lies the problem.....assumptions! Thank you once again for pointing out the obvious.
That is enlightenment, simplicity, naturalness, being present to point out the obvious.
I agree with you in that animals are as the laughing Buddha as they watch the turmoil of beings.
From whom does an eagle need permission to fly? Or a fish to swim?
Nature is enlightenment/liberation in full view, right in front of our faces and yet we strive to find the forest and miss the trees.
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