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Post by therealfake on Dec 16, 2011 0:57:19 GMT
Whatever arises in the awareness can be seen. Is it possible to be aware of awareness? If you can't be aware of awareness, how do you know you exist? Perhaps awareness is also part of my dream...  |
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Post by gurthbruins on Dec 16, 2011 6:20:16 GMT
At the moment, I do not think that I know that I exist. But I am not too sure of that: maybe I do.
Who knows? - as the Spanish are given to say.
I once read something in Greek (a story, or perhaps just a passage) called The Dream of Life.
Winston Churchill said 'Facts are better than dreams' but I think facts seldom match dreams.
I have had more wonderful feelings in dreams, during sleep.
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Post by withinsilence on Dec 16, 2011 12:41:40 GMT
It knows awareness because you're (its) awake and not sleepwalking and lost in a dream of unconsciousness or thoughts that are telling you (it) your (its) awake and not sleepwalking and your (its) still believing them to be true. This is the realm of thoughts, projections of the mind.
It (you) moved from low level consciousness to a higher level consciousness and the proof is in the fact that one is aware of this change within itself that it has the conscious volition to ask such questions whereas before this awakening these questions were probably not even a "thought" in the unconscious consciousness. hehe
Who cares if awareness is aware of its awareness or if its all a dream? Get out of the minds projections and into the now. If your in a dream then be aware of it, if your not dreaming then be aware of it. hehe
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Post by therealfake on Dec 16, 2011 16:50:50 GMT
At the moment, I do not think that I know that I exist. But I am not too sure of that: maybe I do. Who knows? - as the Spanish are given to say. I once read something in Greek (a story, or perhaps just a passage) called The Dream of Life. Winston Churchill said 'Facts are better than dreams' but I think facts seldom match dreams. I have had more wonderful feelings in dreams, during sleep. Yes, how would you know? Anything, like 'knowing', 'sensing', 'intuiting', or 'feeling' of existence, arises in the awareness and is seen. The awareness of awareness is a non dualistic concept at best. And just like a memory, that thought can be experienced over and over again, until one actually believes it's true. When in fact it's not true at all. IMO  |
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Post by therealfake on Dec 16, 2011 17:14:44 GMT
It knows awareness because you're (its) awake and not sleepwalking and lost in a dream of unconsciousness or thoughts that are telling you (it) your (its) awake and not sleepwalking and your (its) still believing them to be true. This is the realm of thoughts, projections of the mind. It (you) moved from low level consciousness to a higher level consciousness and the proof is in the fact that one is aware of this change within itself that it has the conscious volition to ask such questions whereas before this awakening these questions were probably not even a "thought" in the unconscious consciousness. hehe Who cares if awareness is aware of its awareness or if its all a dream? Get out of the minds projections and into the now. If your in a dream then be aware of it, if your not dreaming then be aware of it. hehe "It"...is a concept arising in the awareness and so is not "It" "It knows"...is a concept arising in the awareness and so is not "It knows." "It" moving from lower to higher consciousness...is a concept arising in the awareness and so is not "It moving from lower to higher consciousness. Yes, "Who Cares"? Who? Those are also just more thoughts arising in the awareness. Why bother saying anything about "It", when whatever you say about it, is "not" it. Of course you could fall back on the non-dualist rhetoric that "It" is what your 'pointing' too, but that to is just another concept arising in the awareness...heh Cheers... |
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Post by withinsilence on Dec 16, 2011 18:31:06 GMT
Whatever arises in the awareness can be seen. Is it possible to be aware of awareness? If you can't be aware of awareness, how do you know you exist? Perhaps awareness is also part of my dream... Who is the my in "my dreams" but yet another concept of one whose dreaming? Who "can't be aware of awareness" is also a concept, a projection of mind for who is the "who?" We could go on forever with semantics but really "Who" cares? Simply be aware and don't identify "You" with the thoughts of the mind, everything else is only meaningless details, projections, concepts, ideas and useless rhetoric of the mind. All words are abstractions of reality anyway so everything we say to describe a thing weather seen or unseen is not the thing but a concept projected out into the manifested world. At some point man will come to know that he knows nothing and will stop thinking he knows and just be as a child looking out into the divine mysteries of life with simplicity, awe and wonder and know that its a mystery he himself didn't create, thus how can he ever know it? Just live the mystery! |
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Post by therealfake on Dec 16, 2011 22:22:19 GMT
Whatever arises in the awareness can be seen. Is it possible to be aware of awareness? If you can't be aware of awareness, how do you know you exist? Perhaps awareness is also part of my dream... Who is the my in "my dreams" but yet another concept of one whose dreaming? Who "can't be aware of awareness" is also a concept, a projection of mind for who is the "who?" We could go on forever with semantics but really "Who" cares? Simply be aware and don't identify "You" with the thoughts of the mind, everything else is only meaningless details, projections, concepts, ideas and useless rhetoric of the mind. All words are abstractions of reality anyway so everything we say to describe a thing weather seen or unseen is not the thing but a concept projected out into the manifested world. At some point man will come to know that he knows nothing and will stop thinking he knows and just be as a child looking out into the divine mysteries of life with simplicity, awe and wonder and know that its a mystery he himself didn't create, thus how can he ever know it? Just live the mystery! "Who cares"? Certainly not me. I'm no longer interested in 'thinking' that I know something, and then telling folks what I 'think' I know, just so I can reinforce what I 'think' I know. You know? I have this sense that reality can be experienced directly, uniquely, and not how we normally perceive it, as a layering of personal and shared conceptualizations. My unique perception of the conceptualized world is entirely in my head and so a unique non-conceptualized world must also be there to provide the framework for the conceptualized world to adhere to. I believe that it is our destiny as the human expression of consciousness to explore that, for lack of a better term, separate reality. The final frontier is not outer space, but inner space... Peace |
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Post by withinsilence on Dec 16, 2011 22:43:29 GMT
I agree on the inner space as the final frontier and that reality is to be experienced in itself outside of the realm of thought or concepts but as its own unique, whole, undifferentiated being.
Peace
"When the power of love over comes the love of power, then the world will know peace."
Jimmy Hendrix
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