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Post by popee on Aug 22, 2012 20:47:47 GMT
would a sage answer an unasked question?
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Post by withinsilence on Aug 23, 2012 1:05:17 GMT
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Post by withinsilence on Mar 15, 2013 17:46:10 GMT
this may be far reaching, but in light of what is happening on this planet, the many books I have read on the subject and the astrological "sign" we are in or heading in to, it seems that the next "god" or ruler of this earth (which it is already but taken for granted) is going to be water.
Humanity, with its industrial and technological revolution has forgotten just how dependent ALL LIFE is upon the very water it pollutes to produce all its products. Without clean drinking water there is no "healthy" life.
Thus, we are in or entering into the age of Aqua-rius or the Greek "Hudrokhoos" which translates as "containing water." Now, whether this means to get ready to try and "contain-erize" the water because its supply is going to be very limited, or not, I don't know. But what I do know is that humanity has polluted and continues to pollute water at a much faster rate than it can naturally return to its pure state as it returns back to its source. Kinda sounds like a spiritual journey of a human being to me, which we are over 70% water ourselves.
Something to think about as you let the tap run and run to make it really cold, or really hot, before you fertilize your grass with "unnatural"fertilizer to "force it to grow greener" or take super long showers just because you have the right too. No I am not perfect, but getting better through awareness.
That's the beautiful thing about the inviolable and inexorable laws of nature, you reap what you sow, thus the man that pollutes the air will eventually have to breathe it, one who pollutes the water will eventually drink it, then they will be sick due to the sickness they put in the air and the water, but so will all who bought, sold and contributed to these things as we all live on the same planet, breathe the same air and drink the same water. No I am not above the mess I have helped to create, but I am willing to admit it and begin the clean up process. Its very easy indeed, stop polluting it and it will return to its natural state of purity, hence the law of reciprocal action in action, it works both ways.
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Post by popee on Mar 15, 2013 18:56:58 GMT
I utilize rain barrels for my garden, thank you very much ;D
"everything is provided"
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Post by withinsilence on Mar 15, 2013 19:20:06 GMT
I utilize rain barrels for my garden, thank you very much ;D "everything is provided" awesome, I am not trying to be preachy and while everything is provided, that doesn't mean that man won't pollute it to the point that the amount provided won't sustain the people poisoning it. Which, maybe that is the balance of nature at work, but, in reality there is plenty of water to sustain many more than the 7billion people presently here, but much of it is contaminated and can't be uncontaminated fast enough. There is the same amount of water here that has ever been here, no more is made, it just changes form and is recycled and recycled eternally. |
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Post by popee on Mar 15, 2013 23:48:48 GMT
I know what you're saying ...
greed and fear dude .. those persistent traits which are quite the trouble makers
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Post by withinsilence on Apr 3, 2013 14:52:08 GMT
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Post by withinsilence on Oct 30, 2013 15:47:58 GMT
If one does what it doesn't want to do, is it still not doing exactly what it want's to do? As its doing exactly what it want's to do which is doing what it doesn't want to do. Simply, what it wants to do is exactly what its doing which is doing what it doesn't want to do.
Let's say you don't want to go to church, but you do it to please someone else and you say I'm sacrificing my time for another. So you go and do what you don't want to do and think you're doing it for someone else, but are you still not choosing to do what you're doing? Is this not pseudo benevolence?
It seems that someone else is controlling your actions but who made the choice to go? You did! Who is living in falsity?
Is doing what you want to do a sacrifice? And if you don't want to do it, then is not, doing it, living a lie?
Thus, those who say they are sacrificing themselves for others, are they not doing exactly as they want to do? Who chooses to do what you choose to do?
Now, as I see it, a sacrifice is having something done to you against your will, thus you are sacrificed by another. Like those who are drafted for war and did not choose to join it, they are compelled to serve by the will of those in power, this is to be sacrificed. Like those burned at the stake, they were sacrificed.
I do not see how you can call what you're doing a sacrifice if you choose to do it.
Thus, do what you want to do and don't do what you don't want to do. In this world, this is not easy to live by and its looked down upon, or as selfish, yet aren't those who are compelling you to do what you don't want to do being selfish? So then, how can they judge?
Also, I am not talking about true compassion, or helping one in need, but that which is egoic driven or for recognition of it, that which is not seen as a sacrifice.
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Post by withinsilence on Nov 13, 2013 11:55:26 GMT
Dialogue between Nisargadatta and student:
Q: Is it not so? The Yogi is afraid of life and seeks peace, while the Bhogi is adventurous, full of spirits, forward going. The Yogi is bound by an ideal, while the Bhogi is ever ready to explore.
M: It is a matter of wanting much or being satisfied with little. The Yogi is ambitious while the Bhogi is merely adventurous. Your Bhogi seems to be richer and more interesting, but it is not so in reality. The Yogi is narrow as the sharp edge of the knife. He has to be -- to cut deep and smoothly, to penetrate unerringly the many layers of the false. The Bhogi worships at many altars; the Yogi serves none but his own true Self.
There is no purpose in opposing the Yogi to the Bhogi. The way of outgoing (pravritti) necessarily precedes the way of returning (nivritti). To sit in judgement and allot marks is ridiculous. Everything contributes to the ultimate perfection. Some say there are three aspects of reality -- Truth-Wisdom-
Bliss; He who seeks Truth becomes a Yogi, he who seeks wisdom becomes a jnani; he who seeks happiness becomes the man of action.
Q: We are told of the bliss of non-duality.
M: Such bliss is more of the nature of a great peace. Pleasure and pain are the fruits of actions --
righteous and unrighteous.
Q: What makes the difference?
M: The difference is between giving and grasping. Whatever the way of approach, in the end all becomes one.
Q: If there be no difference in the goal, why discriminate between various approaches?
M: Let each act according to his nature. The ultimate purpose will be served in any case. All your discriminations and classifications are quite all right, but they do not exist in my case. As the description of a dream may be detailed and accurate, though without having any foundation, so does your pattern fit nothing but your own assumptions. You begin with an idea and you end with the same idea under a different garb.
Q: How do you see things?
M: One and all are the same to me. The same consciousness (chit) appears as being (sat) and as
bliss (ananda): Chit in movement is Ananda; Chit motionless is being.
Q: Still you are making a distinction between motion and motionlessness.
M: Non-distinction speaks in silence. Words carry distinctions. The unmanifested (nirguna) has no name, all names refer to the manifested (saguna). It is useless to struggle with words to express what is beyond words. Consciousness (chidananda) is spirit (purusha), consciousness is matter (prakriti). Imperfect spirit is matter, perfect matter is spirit. In the beginning as in the end, all is one.
All division is in the mind (chitta); there is none in reality (chit). Movement and rest are states of mind and cannot be without their opposites. By itself nothing moves, nothing rests. It is a grievous mistake to attribute to mental constructs absolute existence. Nothing exists by itself.
Q: You seem to identify rest with the Supreme State?
M: There is rest as a state of mind (chidaram) and there is rest as a state of being (atmaram). The former comes and goes, while the true rest is the very heart of action. Unfortunately, language is a mental tool and works only in opposites.
Q: As a witness, you are working or at rest?
M: Witnessing is an experience and rest is freedom from experience.
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